17 only saving grace is his shield which Vegeta would smash easily by current Form. they stayed in SSB not using their best forms while in T.O.P they needed all of that and then some. The only way I think Vegeta one shots is if you allow him his SSBE form. umm...the fact that they can handle G.O.D tier fighters while in SSB strongly disagrees with that. in 48mins Goku and Vegeta surpassed their limits several times, so really kinda hard to say they only got this strong and all given a good amount of time has gone by. Because SSB kaioken and SSBE probably don't exist in the movie version. Like I said before, don't think Broly is 50x stronger than them until max power. Freiza is stated to have gotten much stronger yet he was still scared to face Goku or Vegeta. SSB Goku was beating oozaru power Broly. He wears an orange bandana around his neck. Yonion360 8,769 views. Round 2: 17 wins but Vegeta can put up a bit of a fight. Because SSB kaioken and SSBE probably don't exist in the movie version. I just don't think he will one shot. Android 17 was a laid back and easy-going person, not taking his task to kill Goku seriously and seeing it more as a game. what is he going to do against a EB Vegeta besides getting one-shotted? Even when Broly got 50 x stronger they took attacks from him...I asked you what chance does 17 have of even harming someone that durable...who are leagues above him? Super Androide 17 vs. Vegeta SSJ Blue | Dragon Ball Wiki | Fandom. Now, you are saying for some odd reason it isn't based on what information? he couldn't take either tbh. Even full power ssj Broly was only stated to be maybe stronger than Beerus, and SSB Goku and Vegeta together didn't even stand a chance against initial ssj Broly. my dude, you do know this is DBS right? [Vegeta(Second Form)]-Strength Enhancement: Maximum health increase by 30,000-Fighting Spirit: Ki power rises as health decreases-Indignation: Super rises as health decreases-Latent Energy: Defense rises as health decreases-Defense Up 3 \u0026 Attack Down 2-Serious: Atk rises as health decreases-Rush Blast 1: Rush blast speed increased-A.I. oozaru Broly<=SSB Goku. I think full power ssj Broly that fought SSB Gogeta is 50x SSB Goku/Vegeta. DRAGON BALL Z Vegeta vs Android 17 (Dbz stop motion) - YouTube @mygod000: Goku still needs SSBKKx20 and ultra instinct to fight GoD opponents. Posee un poco de la personalidad del Androide Número 17 original pero el Androide Número 17 del Infierno es quien posee la personalidad más dominante, es por ese motivo que es tan brutal y sádico en su forma de pelear. It's really undetermined how much time has gone by, but it was enough that Even Frieza improved greatly since they last saw each other in the T.O.P arc. That was SSG Goku. Vegeta Vs Android 19 Part 2 of 2. ! 21:00. Vegeta and Goku fought that whole fight without going beyond SSB forms. He is average in height with a slim frame and lean-built. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. SSB is just going to one shot him. Al principio fue creado para … That was SSG Goku. Playing next. Similar to his main timeline self before his reappearance in Dragon Ball Super, where his appearance had drastically changed, and throughout his life, Future Android 17 has shoulder-length black hair that comes out from the middle, as opposed to his sister's, which came out from the left side, (his present counterpart's hairstyle had been altered for Super, instead having his hair come out from the right) and thin blue eyes. Registrarse Crear un wiki. The movie follows Toriyama's vision, and Toriyama didn't create either of those forms so he didn't write them into the movie. Not only has he started a family, ... Vegeta Falls! Android 18 and Vegeta land on the road below, and Vegeta says that he can never tell when the androids are injured. I just don't think he will one shot. Not only that he was running from Base Toppo trying to kill the clock as well. Samuel Fly. 17 seemed a bit weaker than base Toppo, and SSB Vegeta should definitely be stronger than base Toppo, which is why I agree SSB Goku beats 17 pretty easily. what is he going to do against an SSBKKx20 Goku besides getting one-shotted? Future Trunks also reveals that Goku will die from an incurable heart disease before he has the chance to confront the Androids. Just strong enough to where he would solidly win. Following Android 17's sacrifice, the remaining Saiyans need time to recover. So...I don't see the problem with them being much stronger other than personal Bias. 17 only saving grace is his shield, Which current Vegeta after the T.O.P arc would shatter due to being Goku's equal at the end again, and it stated they are much stronger than their T.O.P arc version. Did you watch the DBS Broly movie? In the Broly movie? it was stated that Vegeta after the T.o.P arc got much stronger. R3: Gonna give it to 17 in a close fight, mostly due to his unlimited stamina. Vegeta was able to beat Toppo, and I don't see 17 beating him. oozaru Broly<=SSB Goku. Vegeta vs Androide 18 (Foto: Toei Animation) 4. it doesn't matter how we look at it, the fact still remains that they didn't get obliterated by the Gap difference in power. I don't think he is that much stronger. it stated that they are near G.O.D tier and getting even closer to Beerus. If SSB Vegeta>SSB Goku, then he is superior in other forms since SSB is just a multiplier of base. He calls a press conference. He wears a short sleeve black shirt with … Android 17 is a fair-skinned young man with a similar appearance to his fraternal twin sister. current Goku=>Vegeta>>>>Frieza. Its been obvious since the black arc unless you count that outliner feat vs Zamasu. 17 was a lot weaker, to the point he was willing to let Gohan Eliminate him just to get base Toppo out of the Ring. As Goku rests, Vegeta takes it upon himself to challenge Jiren one on one! EP 129 A Transcendent Limit Break! all of 17s tactic where Hit Base on hit and Run, or running out the clock when he got to Base Toppo. He wear… It was stated that Base Broly=> SSB Goku, by piccolo himself stating that Goku was losing and a little bit more of that he is going to die in that fight. Goku!! Round 3: Tough battle that goes to Vegeta. Then that basically means they are much stronger than the anime versions of themselves, they are hanging in there with a stronger foe than God Toppo, by lot and wasn't getting one shotted. I don't think initial ssj Broly is 50x stronger than SSB Goku/Vegeta. 17 isn't even close to SSB Vegeta's level he would literally one shot him. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. the only thing we know is that 17 is somewhere in between SSG and SSB. regardless everything implies they have gotten massively stronger since the T.O.P arc. Se equivocó. Imo SSB Goku and Vegeta at the end of the ToP aren't that much stronger than they were at the beginning. Ssj is a 50 x boost. Es muy arrogante y cree que todos son inferiores a él. [Vegeta(Scouter)] -Strength Enhancement: Maximum health increase by 30,000 -Fighting Spirit: Ki power rises as health decreases -Serious: Atk rises as health decreases … He did that for Jiren, not Toppo, unless you aren't talking about the self destruct attack. Even when Broly got 50 x stronger they took attacks from him...I asked you what chance does 17 have of even harming someone that durable...who are leagues above him? it pretty ludicrous since everything is given to us about SSj says it a 50 x boost in power. Common among Dr. Gero's androids, 17 has a gold hoop earring on each ear. Whilst it seems to be true that he had been forced to use some of SSJB’s power, I think he was quite a long way off from giving it 100%. Elsewhere, Mr. Satan is deciding to call it quits because Majin Buu is no longer there to help him become a better fighter. Android 17 says that Vegeta is much stronger than Dr. Gero's data indicate, and is impressed with his fighting abilities. >= or=> I am cool with either or. There is no evidence to suggest Goku has improved since his fight with Toppo. Lestermawson10. Some people say that Mr. Satan will be back withi… Subscribe for more Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot content or follow me on twitter! Imo SSB Goku and Vegeta at the end of the ToP aren't that much stronger than they were at the beginning. @mygod000: Goku still needs SSBKKx20 and ultra instinct to fight GoD opponents. Type: None[Android 17]-Strength Enhancement: Maximum health increase by 30,000-Fighting Spirit: Ki power rises as health decreases-Defense Up 3-Master Blast: speed \u0026 atk of rush blasts increased, half ki usage, rush/smash atk lose power-Light Body: Cannot be stunned easily by rush blasts-A.I. none of 17s attack was doing anything to Toppo. Broly went Ssj after that and Vegeta and Goku could still take punches and not get one shot. Juegos Películas TV. Goku in the T.O.P arc needed SSBKKx20, UIO, and UI for that. Wallpaper Comments (3) Posted by dragon3 on 03/02/11 at 09:41 AM. a Bit Weaker? The thing with SSB is that you can use to fight at the same level as your opponent, that's why it seems weak. Android 17 is one of the characters from the Dragon Ball series. That pretty much implies they are much stronger now since then. You are using Feats from the T.O.P for 17 which for all extent proposes was just a Tournament that dealt with people doing Rings outs. Originally, he wore an orange bandanna around his neck. [Android 17]-Strength Enhancement: Maximum health increase by 30,000 ... Súper 17 VS Vegeta GT SSJ3 Red Potara *Epic Battle (1080p) - Duration: 5:33. unless 17 did some training that we don't know about he is getting casually one shotted. I don't think he is that much stronger. Ganan If you do then all I have to say is SSB vegeta's Elbow>Serious SSB KHH. Dragonball Z: BT3 - Gameplay Walkthrough - Part 7 - Android Saga - Vegetas Curiousity. La ayuda del maestro karin!! 1:55. He then says that he … It can go either way for all rounds until round 3 where Vegeta casually one shot. Frieza killed Paragus because it looked like Broly wasn't going to win. I like dragon balls z its got to hurt. he was willing to do that for both. La enciclopedia de Dragon Ball. Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. That's because SSB Kaioken and SSBE are Toei exclusive forms and weren't written into the movie as a result. even going by T.O.P arc scaling you could make a case that Ssj Vegeta or base form by the end of T.O.P could take 17 without his shield at least. The anime doesn't provide a clear answer to this question, but the manga reveals that Gohan has the edge over Android 17. Browse more videos. @mygod000: Where was it stated that they got that much stronger after the ToP? Future Trunks then present… Like I said before, do you have any statements from the Author to back up this claim? Then he is superior in other forms since SSB is just a of. Dragon Ball Z. Piccolo vs androids have proof to back up this other. Height with a similar appearance to his fraternal twin sister techniques that put him above them overall and do. 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